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"Wake" with Luke Vargas

Wake with Luke Vargas is an hour-long weekly radio broadcast that explores how overseas developments affect the United States. 

Launched in 2017 by Luke Vargas, TMN's chief foreign correspondent, Wake aims to introduce American news audiences to pressing global developments likely to impact domestic policy, but which may not dominate the cable news cycle.

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Feb 22, 2019

“Banishment is back.” That’s the assessment by one prominent legal scholar as countries start to strip terrorists of their citizenship – sometimes rendering them stateless in refugee camps in Syria and the world’s other distant battlefields.

This week on Wake we’ll look at the legality and practicality of denationalization, and consider whether fear of returning terrorists is pushing western countries to toss out the established judicial playbook and resort to extraordinary legal tactics we might come to regret.

Helping us to do that are this week's guests:

  • Jo Shaw, Salvesen Chair of European Institutions, University of Edinburgh School of Law
  • Peter J. Spiro, co-director, Institute for International Law and Public Policy, Temple University School of Law

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Taped: February 22, 2019.

Hosted by Luke Vargas.